Michael Pachter Says PS4 Will Probably Globally Outsell Wii U by Spring
by Zachary Bridge on January 2, 2014 at 12:05 AM EDT

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The PlayStation 4 is on track to pass the Wii U’s lifetime sales by April or May, according to Michael Pachter, well-known predictor of gaming-related sales trends.

“I am pretty sure the Wii U will still be ahead in March, but PS4 is going to pass it in 2014 at some point. PS4 will only be at 5-5.5 million by March, Wii U should be a hair ahead of that. Probably April or May,” said Pachter.

The PS4 has reached 3.4 million units sold compared to the Wii U’s 5 million units sold, according to VGChartz. The difference, of course, is that the PlayStation 4 was released on Nov. 15, 2013, while the Wii U made its debut on Nov. 18, 2012.

GamerFitNation suspected that the PS4 would outsell the Wii U by March, and we contacted Pachter, managing director of equity research for Wedbush Securities, for his opinion.

There’s a ton of PS4 games coming out around March. Exclusives like Infamous: Second Son, releasing on Mar. 21, and other highly anticipated titles like Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Thief, Basement Crawl and Planetside 2 will push those who are on the fence about buying a next-generation console. The Wii U, in comparison, has few titles coming out around that time. The only one which has any potential to bring gamers to the console is Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze.

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  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    I think Wii U has more momentum than Pachter realizes.

    • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

      Actually We feel he’s right on the Money. Other then Donkey Kong Nintendo doesn’t have any real systems salers coming out in the early part of the year. PS4 has a few coming out as well as Microsoft.

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        fair enough. but remember Nintendo’s IP sells over periods of time, not all at once, so whether Donkey Kong and other games that came in 2014 make up for the loss of momentum early on will have to be seen, as Nintendo is unpredictable, mostly.

        • jamds

          Numbers don’t lie. It’s a known fact that wii u has had slow sales. No need to take it personally.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Facts don’t lie either, as Wii U’s games are much higher quality than what’s on PS4 and Xbox One right now. Don’t get me wrong I want those consoles but don’t go rage quitting on me if you’re butthurt that Nintendo is continuing its traditional run of quality over quantity unlike their competitors. I hope you’re not offended.

        • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

          Don’t let your being a fan of Nintendo misguide you. I, like you love Nintendo but the facts are that they screwed up this Gen. Instead of putting out a system that could compete with the Xbox One and PS4. They put out one that to capitalize off of the appeal of the Wii. Here’s the thing most people “the average Joe” don’t see or care to understand the difference between the Wii and Wii U. Almost the same with Xbox and PS4 but one key Difference happen this time around. Word of mouth is in favor of the Xbox & PS4. No ones talking about the Wii U You.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            I am not only a Nintendo fan, mind you, so don’t go making radical assumptions about my allegiances. Nintendo don’t care about what Microsoft and Sony are doing or else they would’ve copied them just like they copy each other, haven’t you heard? The start of the race is always different from the finish so don’t get hopes so high that you walk away passed off that the outcome and disappointed in Sony amd Microsoft, son. And nobody is talking about Wii U because the world is full of stupid people. Has it really taken you this long to piece that fact of life together-what hell have you been living this whole time? And quit devoting my comments-real mature tantrum just to rub it in.

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            it’s hard not to make an assumption when your name is “Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3″ and you have Zelda Wii U for a icon. Still you’re right…because a person dresses like a “Cop” doesn’t mean their a Cop.

            “And nobody is talking about Wii U because the world is full of stupid people.”

            BTW Your Fanboy was sticking out with this statement.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            It’s hard to believe you even meet the requirements to write for this site when you can’t even get your facts straight without trolling other users. Go to a doctor, get better and then come back when I can take you seriously. Goodbye, BackbOne. You seriously deface and disgrace the Bible.

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            LOL. Thanks for the well wishes. I’ll tell Nintendo you said “Hi!” well I’m at the Doctors office. Happy New Year!

          • stealth20k

            Sorry, I have read this entire arguement and what your saying isnt backed up with reason and fact.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Nintendo’s on my side bitch now stop fucking with me-it’s not cute and it’s gonna let you keep your stupid job. I see Nintendo fully existing as they are-you clearly are wishing them away piece by piece. You really are the worst troll I’ve ever met-I don’t know how Gamerfitnation came to hire a coward like you. Such talent wasted.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh look, everyone. BlackBible’s tears are so salty he has only the strength for a downvote, you might as well just ban if you’re that pissed off because I don’t give two fucks. No offense to the rest of the GamerfitNation staff, as you’re the only one who’s acting unreasonably and has nothing to do with them personally.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            LOL

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Ignore @BlackBible:disqus.

            @BlackBible:disqus is a strongly religious person, so that user ignores FACTS/KNOWLEDGE

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            I see

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            :)

          • Will

            Sorry, but you don’t talk like a fan, you talk like a fanboy. If Nintendo didn’t care about what Sony & Microsoft are doing, then they wouldn’t have dropped the price of the Wii U by $50 when it’s the cheapest of the 3, and they wouldn’t have released Mario 3D World, and would of pull off an E3 conference rather than a Nintendo Direct, plus Miyamoto wouldn’t have checked other games, as in the case of Tearaway.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            every company drops its price along the line. they may not be in direct competition but that doesn’t mean they’re not smart enough to conduct business strategies. Miyamoto checks other games because he’s not just interested in Nintendo games but other experiences. As for the fanboy part, if I was defending Sony and Microsoft you wouldn’t be complaining now go home and scrub off your hypocrisy, it’s very childish.

          • Omari

            Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 is obviously sleeping with “Reggie” Fils-Aime, his body was so ready for you. LOL

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            LMABO!!!!!!!!!

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            LMABO, my ass slave!

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            No downvote-this is a miracle.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            No you just sold your soul to the devil of the industry, Microsoft, just like BlackBible did, in order to gain access to the chariots of hell. Is that too hard process troll?

          • stealth20k

            I dont know what your even saying. Nintendo is competing and beating the other companies.

          • Will

            You calling a system that has sold up to 5 m in a year versus 2 consoles that have sold almost up to 3 million in a month and a half a beating? Lol, keep believing that yourself. You Nintendo fanboys are the worst of all groups.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Don’t be surprised when Nintendo surpasses analysts predictions, cry baby.

          • lizardude007

            Wii U is my preferred console over Xbox One and PS 4. But where Wii U failed was not only their name but trusting that developers would easily work with their gamepad – which is amazing! Part of it was also the build up but there’s no going back on that.

            What Nintendo needs are more titles and developers who are willing to make the Wii U a way better experience, which they can easily do! I don’t know if you’ve played games like CoD or FIFA on both Xbox/PS and Wii U, but the gameplay is faster on the Wii U and overall better. Wii U sales are gonna be up this year but I don’t see them going higher than PS4 ’cause lets be honest, the PS and Xbox fan base is huge. If developers make it worth playing their games on the Wii U then I can see it slowly getting up the ladder. Also, no need for name calling.

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            THANK YOU FOR THE TRUTH!

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Me too. And Nintendo is getting more developers-they’re building up their indie catalog and it’s going great for them on that front. No, I haven’t experienced the latest FIFA and COD on all 3 platforms-thanks for that heads up. Though since PS4 and Xbox One just came out the momentum will be high up there and have Wii U catching up for some time, Nintendo will eventually be one of the leading manufacturers in no time. Ok, I’ll stop the name calling. You’ll see-one must never doubt Nintendo unless they want to be made a fool. never forget that.

          • stealth20k

            yes, when its outpacing the systems that came before.

      • stealth20k

        Actually they both have none…….

      • bcmugger

        Uhh, mario kart 8 will sell 2 million wiiUs on its own.

    • bigshynepo

      If the PS4 doesn’t outsell the Wii U, Sony will probably miss their expected targets. Battle of the analysts…Round 1…FIGHT!

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        I think this gen, we’re in rare circumstances where one console or two won’t do the competition by a wide margin, but will remain on the same level for the majority or all of the generation through. Why can’t we all be friends? I don’t wanna see Microsoft and Halo go away, Sony and Infamous go away, and Nintendo and Zelda go away-do YOU?

        • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

          The Wii U had a year with no competition. When the original Wii came out word of mouth help drive their sales. this time around word of mouth is driving the PS4 sales.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            This time around PS4 is the one that’s gonna have a drought near the end of the console cycle while Wii U’s hard hitters will continue to the very end. Ironic how I switched that back on you and how fate works.

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            People in the Industry feel that Nintendo should stop making consoles and stick to games. Listening to your statements suggest they might be right. Since the one thing Nintendo can do is create Good Games.

            Google it: industry people have been saying it a lot louder as of recent.

            Me personally I couldn’t imagine a world without Nintendo.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Thing is Nintendo:s games would never work conceptually on any other consoles. Listening to my statements show that Nintendo isn’t gonna quit because doubters like you give up a fight so easily without even throwing a punch. I can’t imagine Nintendo without hardware or software-one can’t exist without the other and it’s in their DNA. Do you always follow the crowd?

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            I see you didn’t read everything I wrote. Especially at the end LOL.

            Just to help you out here you go.

            “Me personally I couldn’t imagine a world without Nintendo.”

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh I read everything you said but your attempt to trick me was absolutely a pathetic fail. If I had realized I was dealing with a person who has the mentality of a five year old I would have ditched this article a long time ago. As you can so the joke is on you, ROFLOLWROFLMFAO XD

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            I feel sorry for your lost. it’s unfortunate your ability to comprehend was taken from you at an early age.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            It’s a shame to see your soul exorcised at an early age and losing all rationale and passion for anything in life, especially the truth. Let me know when you dispose of your shit so I can actually take you seriously and not continue to humiliate you like the little girl you are who can’t stand to be wrong and actually admit defeat like a man. Ring any bells? Funny how that works, homes.

          • Will

            The more you talk, the more evident you lost at the argument… You talking about being a little girl when your “Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3″ username perfectly portray the description, just like these stupid moronic Justin Beiber fans, and you would call someone a kid, little girl, child with the purpose of feeling superior to others, and pretend as if you’re right when in reality you’re not, if you wanna be respected as an adult, act like one, accept your company of choice has flaws like everyone else, your fanboys are what’s mostly wrong with Nintendo, nothing surprising.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            I hate Justin Bieber thank you very much. I didn’t lose, you’re just blinded by the light that has opened your eyes to the inevitable truth. you know what that is? I’ll let you think it over before you say anything else retarded. Anyway, I am right and it’s about time you admit it like a man. You wanna be respected quit spreading lies like a gossip girl, bitch. Are you offended? Good, you deserve it. When did I say Nintendo was perfect-are you always this emotionally constipated because its utterly laughable! You and your trolls are what’s wrong with the video game industry. Not a shocker since you’re full of cock and bullshit. Shall I go on honey bunch or have you had enough of a pounding that your feminist self could handle?

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            LMAO

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            Poor Justin Beiber always getting bashed on LOL.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            LOL

          • http://www.us.playstation.com/ HyperTallih

            LOL

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Facepalm

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Why the down-vote?

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Stop “blowing things out of proportion”.

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            LMAO!!! wait… Wait. wait…. Are you kidding me?! You guys actually created a place where you try to back each other up online when it comes to Nintendo? http://hyperscience.weebly.com/troll-free-disqus.html#comment-1184355092

            I’m done…. The internet is funny as Hell!

            Look Facts are facts but you guys are truly playing favorites in favor of Nintendo. I cannot continue these conversations with you. it’s obvious you only came here to defend each other and Nintendo.

            I wish you all the best of luck as you try to fight the Nintendo fight!.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Ignorant stalker much?

          • Guest

            Is a -1 vote all you have? lol

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Thank you, because we’re winning motherfucker but please, no luck necessary because we don’t believe in luck and the only one who needs help right now is you, cunt now fuck off or you’ll end up getting yourself fired, asshole.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh and also I don’t know if you just have stage Infinity of retardation and get it through your thick skull full of shit, but I already said that I am not only a fan of Nintendo. I came here to conduct a conversation and you turned it into an all out war, so again, fuck off and when you actually something relevant to talk about, let me know. P.S. I like your backwards logic-really brings out your embarrassingly persistent belligerence. I pity the mother who had to squeeze you out of her petite vagina.

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            lol

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            another downvote, you really know how to show your true colors, BlackBible.

          • Soraya

            If you are here to conduct an adult conversation, you better start up using proper vocabulary. Honestly, the more you curse, the less credibility you have. Cheers

          • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

            Here is the “true” quote, “dumbass”:

            can’t imagine Nintendo without hardware or software-one can’t exist without the other and it’s in their DNA.”

          • stealth20k

            very few people in the industry feel Nintendo should stop making consoles. Because its a stupid idea without business sense.

            If anything Sony should put games on Wii u,/………….

          • Will

            In that case, I rather let Sony make games for XBox One than Wii U.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Given the rivalry Sony and Microsoft have, that won’t happen for ages to come.

          • stealth20k

            Wii u did have competition.

  • heavenshitman1

    What are Pachters thoughts on analyst predictions that Sony Global will declare bankruptcy in the next few years???

    • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

      I don’t believe that’s not going to happen.

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        I hope you’re joking.

      • heavenshitman1

        “don’t believe that’s not going to happen”
        Did that mean u believe they will declare bankruptcy?

        Either way, currently it looks PS4 may be Sony’s only profitable avenue in the near future. Vita’s whipped by 3DS, Vita is a money pit for Sony. They lost billions US and sold major assets in just the last few years, and Sony has almost no brand-name recognition anymore in most the other industries. Samsung, LG, Pioneer etc… pretty much own Sony’s markets now

        • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

          CES is this next week. I’m attending the Sony press conference. By that time I’ll have a better idea where Sony stands. Still I’m saying I really don’t see them going Bankrupt.

  • Dave

    PS4 is going to dominate just like the PS2 did. It is a beautiful slick machine with incredible power for the bargain price it is offered at – that is why it has record breaking sales across the world.

  • bearmon2010

    Look at him.. A fake smile. Dont listen to him. He is a thick head and brag person. He is very annoying.

  • stealth20k

    Who cares. Nintendo is doing just fine and is in a better position than either companies.

    Nintendo dominated this holiday globally.

  • stealth20k

    “There’s a ton of PS4 games coming out around March. Exclusives like Infamous: Second Son, releasing on Mar. 21, and other highly anticipated titles like Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Thief, Basement Crawland Planetside 2 will push those who are on the fence about buying a next-generation console.”

    Actually no they wont, because all of those but 1 are on another platform. Which means they do not have console pushing power.

    “The Wii U, in comparison, has few titles coming out around that time. The only one which has any potential to bring gamers to the console is Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze.”

    Putting aside the fact that his site is ignoring titles to serve a bias agenda, DK has more system pushing potential than all those other games combined.

    • bcmugger

      mario kart 8 is way more popular than you think.

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    The key factor will be the sales record for December. If Nintendo did well, they will have a good start to a new year. Still PS4 has a few things dropping early this year. Other then games, Gaikai will be available soon. There will be so much marketing push behind this feature. There are other facts to consider but we’ll share them with you later today.

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      troll

  • kreator

    XBO FTW!

  • Solid Snake

    Its time Nintendo dropped out of the console harware bussiness, and start making thier games for PS4 and Xbox One.

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      No.

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Are you drunk, or do you just fall under peer pressure too easily to ever come close to comprehending the difference between insanity and naivete?

      • Solid Snake

        I’m a bit high, but that’s not the point. lol
        The Wii U isn’t exactly selling will is it? 1 or 2 generations from now, Nintendo will go the way SEGA did.

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          The problem with that is that 3 console manufacturers are needed to keep the industry in balance. It’s not the 80s and early 90s anymore where it was just two companies-Nintendo and Sega- that dominate the industry. Since the late 90s 3 companies has been the trend and that isn’t gonna change anytime soon, and Nintendo isn’t gonna go ever. Do you recall Sony and Microsoft introducing a new generation of children to grow up and continue as adults? I didn’t think so.

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    I can’t believe they created a Nintendo Support Group! LMAO!!!!! I’m literally crying laughing right now!

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Look, elitist, I don’t know why your bitch fit is still going but for whatever reason you have, cut the bullshit out and fuck off or I will contact your superiors. Persist and see if I am kidding, momma’s boy. Got me homey dog?

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      Get the fuck out of my way, ignorant religious/politically conservative person, why don’t you go the fuck to your piece of fucking shit place known as the “Church”?

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      Fuck off.

    • TheScienceEnthusiast1130

      GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    I gotta take a picture this is Hilarious! LMAO!! I never seen a console support group! WOW what is gaming coming to?

    • Guest

      No.

    • stealth20k

      Is this your best arguement?

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      What are gonna do? Troll us till we give you a blowjob? Go fuck yourself sideways and everywhere in between, chauffeur.

      • Omari

        Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 “Reggie” Fils-Aime does that for you enough already. ;-)

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          That’s not what your mom said last night. Don’t worry, I talked to her real good so she never has to know how Don Mattrick stole your virginity and sold you on the black market under the stripper name, Omari.

          • Omari

            Ooooo nice come back, taken from the book come back responses for dummies? :-P

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Nahh, from your mom. She hates you btw

          • Omari

            Resorting to Mom jokes just shows how immature you are how does that insult anyone in this day an age!?! Wake up Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 it’s 2014 not 1990. I see you are still holding on to the “good days” of gaming with Nintendo just 3 years after you were born, what year was that 95!? :-P

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            If it doesn’t insult you then why did you respond, dumbass?

          • Omari

            WTF!?!? What does my response have to do with being insulted, I clicked on the reply button, and letting you be aware the Mama jokes are outdated!?

            OK you must have been born in 98, it’s the only logical reason you are this immature. lol

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            Omari, He’s a Kid. Just let him be. The point is He’s not trolling he’s just young. One day he’ll get it but for now ignore him or don’t it’s your choice.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Kid? You look like you took hormones and then got plastic surgery so who’s the kid now?

          • Omari

            LOL Thanks BlackBible for verification. I won’t waste my time anymore with this KID. Funny how Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 post on your site then he is so shocked that you found out about the support site? He didn’t know that this site is yours and that you are a moderator!?!!? You have to be very young to post on the internet and think you can keep things secret?!!? LMFAO!!!

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            Exactly. Watching them talk was entertaining, but it has to end. I have to fly to LA to interview Kevin Hart and Ice Cube tomorrow. Then Vegas for CES.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Just ban me already. If not I will be back to read your article on CES. This is the most fun I have had in a while so thank you for the attention. Love you honey, don’t go black on any white girls okay?

          • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

            I’m not going to Ban you. you are our supporter

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Do explain what you mean by ‘supporter’?

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            If I was born in 98 I would be as naive as you are.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Oh and for the record, you say I never grew up, well I say you never had a childhood. Sad

          • Omari

            I’m probably much older than you, I for one had a much better child hood than you, especially when it comes to gaming. Don’t enter this battle with me, you will lose big time.

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            What year were you born that you make such a bold claim? I don’t only play Nintendo, so yes, let the battle begin. I will give you the honor of drawing first, good sir.

          • Omari

            You are so not worth it Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 your comments alone proves that I am much older than you, and more experienced. I’d be surprised if your first system was a Game Cube, it must have been a Wii. :-P

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Actually it was Gamecube. Shocker?

  • Tony Polanco

    What the fuck? A console support group? Seriously? You fans are insane. My man reported the news and you dudes are going ballistic? He didn’t insult your mama. And this is what PACHTER thinks.

    All of you are fucking crazy. Downvote my post. I know you will.

    • stealth20k

      I have no problem with what pachter says. The behavior of the mods in this comment section has been nothing less than embarrassing.

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      No I won’t sink to your level. I’m not a lowlife like you so spare me the narcissism. It’s very overrated.

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        Thanks for proving my point, cheeseball.

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    Nintendo does better with Handhelds then recent consoles..

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      No shit, sherlock. Are you done already?

  • Gpryu

    Nintendo is an interesting spot as the DS platform does good numbers and has its own lane while the Wii U failed to capture lightening in a bottle like the Wii did. The Wii U has a few great Nintendo first party games.

    Mid term, I don’t see Nintendo leaving the console business if for no other reason the DS platforms. But I could see them switch to portable and third party at the end of this gen, which would be the best of all worlds for them.

    Long term, it’ll require a change of fortune or another lightening in a bottle idea for their to be another Nintendo console.

  • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

    Ok Time for some Prospective here. The Wii U came out almost a year ahead of the PS4 and XBox ONE. So it is virtually impossible for them to have the same specs. Sony and MS would have just added better hardware and performance into their machines and they would be technically more Powerful. So lets stop the “Wii U is not next gen” talk right there.

    Now lets get into what this is all about, The Games. Now Compare all 3 consoles libraries so far. Who wins? Nintendo. Now the PS4 and XBox ONE have compatibility with tablet devices. Who started that? Nintendo. This had to be said.

    And for Pachter to say the PS4 will outsell the Wii U globally is a “duh” moment. THE PS4 LAUNCHES IN JAPAN NEXT MONTH!!! I know that and I am not an analyst, I am just a REAL Gamer and I am in the know.

    I have all of the systems and I play all types of games. I am a gaming fanboy.

    • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

      Exactly when Sony hits Japan it’s over. Thanks Andre!

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        When Sony hits Japan, your mom will be dead as I bet my earnings from Nintendo on her, son! And that’s speaking if Nintendo wins, which, they will!

        • Guest

          WHOA!

          • Guest

            What just happened?

          • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

            Had to be done-he doesn’t know his limits like he knows Michael Pachter’s dick.

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          and the downvotes continue-this guy needs to go back to kindergarten.

      • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

        It is never over my dude. All three will maintain.

        • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

          Exactly :)

      • ilovegoogleglass

        I don’t think your Disqus ID is appropriate but well its just me….

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Thank you for understanding and being the only reasonable gamer on here. I appreciate your peace and knowledge that gives you your nobility.

    • PachterStation

      Nintendo could have gone on for another year with the Wii. The Wii was selling with a crap range of games, plus it was selling for under £80 anyway. No excuses, Nintendo has the knowhow and money to pump out a powerful console which is very important when it comes to third party support. If Sony can sell a powerful console for £350, Nintendo can do the same. Nintendo pumping out a PS3 with 50% more power isn’t going into the future. Times have changed.

      • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

        This goes to what I said on twitter. First I do agree that the Wii had another year of life left in it. Just like I think the PS3 and 360 did and still does. Now, When Nintendo was developing the Wii U, The PS4/Xbox One tech was not readily available, right? Now Like I have said, This is the Next generation of Nintendo consoles they are not trying to be on the same level as Sony and Microsoft.

    • Sam Perricone

      I agree that Wii U has the strongest software library. That’s pretty hard to argue with given the lack thereof on the other new consoles at the moment. Pikmin, two Mario’s, Wind Waker HD, Wii Fit, Wii Party, Wii Sports Club, DKC coming in 8 weeks, W101, Lego City, Monster Hunter, ZombiU, etc. Impressive library so far.

      • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

        I actually like the software line up for the Wii U myself.

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    Yeah but Wii U isn’t doing well. They didn’t event make their 8 million goal. 5 million in a year compared to 3.4 million in a month.

  • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

    What you all need to understand is, Nintendo is not Competing with MS and Sony. They are on another level with their market.

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      thank you-someone who understands Nintendo like I do. Thank you for being reasonable.

      • Omari

        Oh now Nintendo is in their “own market” easy to say this when they are losing badly!? MS, Sony and Nintendo are video game consoles. Sorry they are all in the same market and each one wants to be #1.

        Why was Nintendo running their mouths before the Wii U launch about 3rd party support would be much greater for them this generation!?! Then after launch when most of the 3rd party support bailed on Wii U development due to POOR Wii U console SALES, oh now Nintendo is claiming to be in their “own” market. Yeah, they pulled a real fast one there.

        Does Pizza Hut, Pizza Pizza, Mc Donalds or Berger King come out and say “we are not competing with each other, we are on another level with our own market!?!?!

        LOL nice support group you got there Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3 looks like a nice group for Nintendo nut jobs to keep on believing!?!? :-P

    • PachterStation

      Nintendo are on a lower level up against Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo are very poor with third party publishers. Nintendo’s consoles are just not powerful enough for most third party publishers anyway. There’s a lot wrong with Nintendo at the moment. The men at the top are to blame.

    • http://www.therealgamers.net/ Matt Clarmont

      Unfortunately they are in a market WITH MS and Sony and their Niche isn’t going to provide sustainability. Nintendo are hurting. Badly. Make no mistake. But perhaps their is a light at the end of the Wii U tunnel…time will tell.

  • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

    One Thing Nintendo did not do was Market the Wii U properly.

    • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

      This is very true. Said this many times before.

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        No you didn’t.

  • Gamingsince75

    Considering he has NEVER been right..lol
    He knows the Sony fanboys worship his every word so every now and then he says something he knows they will eat up, regardless of if it has any merit or not..
    Lets just look at FACTS.
    FACT Sony had to sell its HQ in the US it was doing so bad
    FACT Their stocks were moved down to junk status
    FACT It was recently shown that they wont make it another 2 years the way things are going
    FACT Launch numbers are NEVER maintained.
    FACT Every PS4 sold is a negative added to revenue as they lose a lot on every unit.
    FACT WIi U outsold PS4 a few weeks since tis launch. That should happen at all.
    FACT Nintendo also sold just as many Wii Us when it first launched
    FACT People will always want their competition gone. Of course some devs want Nintendo to leave so they have a better chance of making games that people love. Cant do that as good as they want to atm because Nintendo dominates gaming in every way.
    Of course facts don’t matter to fanboys.

    • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

      Facts are their diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain.

      • Guest

        lol

    • http://myanimelist.net/profile/Kiratron Megatron`

      The Wii U did not sell just as much when it launched, there have been multiple studies done which state sony is making a small profit on each console sold, and I’d like to know the validity of the “fact” that the wii U outsold the ps4 a few weeks since its launch.

  • http://www.us.playstation.com/ HyperTallih

    @BlackBible:disqus

    y know that you’re a fail troll

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    LMAO these guys are making my day today. They are now panicking because they didn’t want people to know about their support group. So they are trying to make their accounts private not realizing it doesn’t matter. They are asking people to attack people making comments against nintendo. I’m sorry but this is why fanboyism must die.

    The fact you need to recruit people to validate your points makes you look unconfident in your postion

    • Guest

      FÚÇK YOU

    • Guest

      Ignore us and move on.

      • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

        Yeah, you’re right! I have things to do today. it was fun laughing at the comments but it’s time to stop. Bottom line we all love Nintendo but they messed up point blank. They had a year to dominate and they didn’t. Will they make a come back? I hope so, but it seems unlikely. The average person don’t see games the way a Gamer see games.

        Most of you making your arguments are Gamers but most consumers don’t care about how awesome Mario.

  • Guest

    not*

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    LOL XD

    • http://www.us.playstation.com/ HyperTallih

      :P I’M LAUGHING HARD LOOL

  • Guest

    LMAO

  • http://www.us.playstation.com/ HyperTallih

    xd

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    I feel bad for those guys. I hope they get the help they need.

    • Guest

      Let’s stop this!

  • http://gamerfitnation.com BlackBible

    Perfect for this moment

  • Sam Perricone

    “The only one which has any potential to bring gamers to the console is Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze.”

    Are you not aware Mario Kart 8 is coming out in spring, too? Surely you’re aware of the popularity of the Mario Kart series, even if you don’t personally like Wii U. Usually journalists try and stay somewhat objective, though.

    • PachterStation

      Not a chance will Mario Kart 8 and Tropical Freeze sell a high amount of consoles. Even the likes of Pokémon, Metroid, Zelda and Galaxy will struggle. Pikmin 3 and Mario World 3D have struggled. Most Nintendo fans have jumped ship. It happened to SEGA with the Dreamcast. Nintendo has one last chance with its next console. But after the Wii (the Wii turned out to be a fad) and Wii U, Nintendo are too tarnished.

      • Sam Perricone

        You sound as if you are ignorant of the popularity of certain Nintendo franchises. Mario Kart for GameCube, the lowest-selling Nintendo console, had an attach rate of 30% to sales of the system. 30%. Mario Kart Wii had similar attach rate. Mario Kart is one of the most proven system-sellers that exists in the entire industry. It’s right up there with 3D Marios and Smash Bros. Those three series sell Nintendo consoles. The fact that you mentioned Pikmin as if that is supposed to be a system-seller shows you aren’t very familiar with the situation.

  • stealth20k

    If Black Bible really is a mod, then its probably for th ebest I rarely go to this site.

  • PachterStation

    I can’t see Mario Kart 8 boosting Wii U sales by much. The Wii U is too expensive in most countries. £300 tops in the UK, which works out at $493. Consoles are quite cheap in the US, so now the US knows why the Wii U is struggling in Europe. On top of that, game releases on the Wii U have been very poor worldwide. If Nintendo can sell the Wii with a poor range of games, then it can be done with the Wii U. Bring the price of the Wii U right down and it’ll sell. But no way will the Wii U topple the PS4 and One. And it’s not rocket science to work out that the PS4 will overtake the Wii U over night. Even the One will do it.

  • PachterStation

    Only the 3DS is keeping Nintendo going at the moment. It’s an over priced console, more so the XL model. The Vita has dropped to under £150 now. As the Vita will have a longer lifespan, I can see it overtaking 3DS sales. The Wii U is a whitewash.

  • Andre “otakuman5000″ Tipton

    Ok Why do you play Games? Because of the tech in the console/PC, or because of the game itself? I don’t understand why you guys don’t get it.

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